Dragonfire Performance Chip by Redline Technologies

This is a Dragonfire / Tornado Eco Flex review / analysis and comparison. These Performance Chips were purchased on ebay from seller illuminationz-1. Let’s take a look:

 

Company Profile

The manufacturer is a company called Redline Technologies, according to the packaging. They did not seem to have a website at the time of this review.

 

Cost

The cost on ebay at the time of this review varies, from $27.49 up to $74.97. Once again, this price range is VERY suspect, as no real tuners can be designed this cheaply. 

 

Product Appearance

Dragonfire Tornado and Eco Flex Performance Chips

 

 

Stage 2 Performance Chip by Redline Technologies

 

The OBD performance module comes in three versions as shown above. The Green and Blue ones claim to save fuel, the Red one claims to be a Stage 2 performance booster chip. We purchased one of each of these modules via ebay for testing.

Immediately we noticed some red flags. Note the packaging itself:

Dragonfire Performance Chip Packaging

 

If you were with us for the NitroOBD chip review, you will notice the claimed manufacturer is a company called ‘Nicolay’. Here it is again on the Dragonfire packaging. This is not a good sign.

As for the claims, many products claim to do a lot of things, but, do they really work?

 

Internal Analysis

After removing the cover of each module, we noticed an old familiar circuit board design:

Tornado Eco Flex Circuit Board PCB Side View

 

If you were with us for the Top Auto Accessory Scam, you will notice this identical circuit board immediately. The circuit board is built around a hidden SMD IC on the rear of the circuit board, which is a STM8S003F3 IC. Right away we see a problem here, because if we pull the datasheet for the STM8S003F3 IC, we can see from the manufacturer, ST, that this chip has a maximum program memory size of 8KB:

STM8S003F3 Datasheet

 

Online searching reveals that ECU maps for a vehicle will be at least 20KB or larger PER MAP! In addition to this, the chip must also have room for the code (programming) to communicate the map to the vehicle. This is way too large for the STM8S003F3 IC to contain. So, if this is the case, then there are no genuine vehicle maps onboard this module. What can be stored in such a small 8KB sized space then? Once again, we have our own suspicion.

We looked a little closer and noticed another BIG fed flag:

Tornado Eco Flex Circuit Board PCB Top View

There are only a total of eight connections from the circuit board to the OBD shell. All other pins are NOT CONNECTED!

The only pins connected from the OBD connector to the circuit board are the following pins: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 14, 15, 16. What does this mean? When we check the OBD protocols and which pins they require, we will see another red flag:

 

http://www.pfdiagnose.com/FAQ1.html

 

From this chart, we see the following protocols and which pins must be present for them to be used:

CAN – 4, 6, 14, 16

PWM -2, 4, 5, 10, 16

VPW – 2, 4, 5, 16

ISO – 4, 5, 7, 16

So we can conclude from this that the Tornado / Dragonfire modules:

Are MISSING PIN 6 – IS NOT CAN CAPABLE

Are MISSING PIN 10 – IS NOT PWM CAPABLE

Are MISSING PIN 7 – IS NOT ISO CAPABLE

The only protocol left, VPW, is only used on a very small number of vehicles. The vast majority use CAN or ISO protocols. This is the last nail in the coffin – even if the tiny chip were somehow able to produce some magic, the pins needed for most vehicles they claim it works with are not even connected to the circuit board! However, the two most important pins, 4 and 16, which supply GND and +12V to power the light blinker ARE connected!

In addition, the module claims to be custom programmed for a specific vehicle model. If this is the case, where is the programming port to flash the module with the vehicle programming? There are a few programming pads to the left of the stm ic, but they are inaccessible once the module is assembled. This means the module was programmed with one generic program before assembly. This is proof that it cannot be custom programmed for a specific vehicle! It runs the same code in all modules – a light blinker program!

 

Operation

We connected each of the chips to our 2012 BMW 530i 3.0L L6 as instructed and the lights came on as expected:

Tornado Eco Flex Lights

The lights began to blink in the exact same sequence as the NitroOBD chip did.

We followed the instructions and drove at least 200+ miles to give it the benefit of the doubt, and…… nothing. No power increase from the Stage 2 chip, no mileage increase from the Tornado or Dragonfire. We did, however, see a neat light show in pretty colored boxes!

 

Analysis

It is clear from our analysis so far that the Dragonfire, Stage 2 and Tornado Eco Flex chips from redline technologies are nothing but another Nitro OBD light blinker scam. From others on the web, there are reports of ECU damage from NitroOBD, and, being that this is most likely the same thing in another colored cover, there is the possibility of vehicle damage at worst, a pretty light show at best. Also, one should always be very suspicious of chips who have numerous misspellings in the descriptions and show obviously false Dyno graphs.

 

Company Response

We sent the following message to the company before completing this review, and received this response.

Our message to the company:

Hello,

We are an automotive performance chip review group and saw your performance chip listing. We have a few questions about your product:

1) Can you assure us this is not a NitroOBD scam? If so, why does the PCB inside look EXACTLY like the Nitro OBD chip?
2) The Dyno graphs on your ad are obviously fake. Do you have any real-world proof?
3) Why is the manufacturer / brand ‘Nicolay’ listed on your packaging (the same as appears on the NitroOBD scam)?
4) Is redline technologies an actual company?

Company’s response:

illuminationz-1 Dragonfire Ebay Response

 

They again contacted us a few minutes later, not with proof that their product works, only with more taunts:

illuminationz-1 Dragonfire Ebay Response 2

 

Another interesting area to research is the Userid histories of these scam sellers on ebay. Most of the time, legitimate performance companies will only change their ebay seller name only once, or even keep the same name they had when they first started selling on ebay. Not always, but most of the time, the scammers will change the name of their seller account Userids several times, trying to look ‘official’ to buyers and match the garbage product they are selling. Our lookup on illuminationz-1’s past Ebay Userid history shows this is indeed the case with Dragonfire performance chips:

illuminationz-1 Past Ebay Userids

This shows us that only recently, approx one year from the time of this review, this ebay seller changed his username to match his product – around the same time he began selling these scam chips. This is even more evidence to fuel our suspicion that this is just another scam.

 

Conclusion

From our research and review, it is our opinion that the Dragonfire, Stage 2 and Tornado Eco Flex chips from redline technologies DO NOT WORK. They are simply another Nitro OBD scam – light blinkers at best / ECU damage at worst. As from the company’s response, they obviously cannot defend their product but simply resort to threats and intimidation as they are profiting from a scam. Our goal is to objectively look at each product and evaluate it. We do not do too well with threats. This is the kind of company / individual that sells this product, and this is who will be profiting from it should you fall for it. Take our experience and avoid this scam. You will DEFINITELY want to avoid these!

FINAL GRADE:  F

Company Communication
Cost
Design
Operation
Power Gains
Safe for Vehicle
Total Rating
 

17 Replies to “Dragonfire Performance Chip by Redline Technologies”

  1. Add me to the list of people who fell for this scam. Should’ve known something wasn’t right when the title on eBay said Performance Chip Power Tuner Programmer Stage 2 Fits 2007-2014 Toyota FJ Cruiser – it says it fits years 2007 thru 2014, mine is a 2013. This is a link to what I purchased:
    http://ebay.com/itm/292429766379

    Found out from this site my suspicions were correct – it is just a blinking light plug. Not only did it NOT help with power as it claimed, it set a check engine light on my dash so I removed it. I tried to contact the seller, illuminationz-1, on eBay for a return, and I got no response. Of course with ebay policy, after two months from the sale date, eBay no longer allows you to ask for a return or leave feedback for the seller. So I guess I am stuck with this light blinker junk I paid $75 for, but at least I can post my experience here and hopefully prevent someone else from falling for this scam. These sellers should be banned from selling this trash. Thanks for posting this info, wish I saw this site sooner!!

    1. Dragonfire Performance Chip by Redline Technologies” I bought one of these last week and after reading the review on this chip i decided to return it,thanks for the information.

  2. I bought a Dragonfire preformance chip for my 2012 Ford focus SEL and went step by step on the instructions on the box and it didn’t work it actually made my car shift funny and fill weaker so I am going to try to return it before my 30 days are up

  3. Thanks for your reports saved me a packet.

    These guys are going down……just look at that comment that idiot made !

    “Still making sales” -hiding behind ebay….let me at him !!!!!!!!!!!!

  4. I have read all contents of this site and I concur with its findings. I purchased a Dragon Fire 2 obd unit for my 2018 Chevy Cruze. The only thing I got was a led light show. I will leave installed for the 100 to 200 miles requested for it to copulate driving habits. But I may pull it sooner. In the first 75 miles it has decreased fuel economy and I have recognized no power gains. I have only had the unit for 3 days hope I can get a refund and put money toward a proven trick of mpg and hp gain!

  5. illuminizationz-1 politely threatened me with a no refund claim by insinuating I would damage the dragon fire 2 chip before returning it. They also called eBay and had my negative feedback taken down. How can others be protected if negative feedback is not allowed to be heard. Somebody needs to stop this company

    1. Sorry to hear you had trouble with one of these eBay scammers. The good thing is you are protected by the eBay money back guarantee even if they try to deny the return. Within 60 days from the date of purchase you can file a not as described claim and get your money back. As for the negative feedback being removed by the scammer calling eBay, this is something many scammers do and sadly eBay allows it because they also profit from the scam. Good luck to you and thank you for letting us know about your experience. Hopefully it will prevent others from falling for this scam.

  6. HELLO. THANK YOU . YOU JUST SAVED ME FROM BEING SCAMMED 4 AM I HAD IT IN MY E BAY CART SOON AS I READ YOUR REVIEW I IMMEDIATELY REMOVED IT . I THOUGHT I BETTER CHECK REVIEWS ON THIS & CAUGHT YOURS. IT MADE ME SUSPICIOUS WHEN IT SAID YOU FEEL IT GRADUALLY INSTALLING ? IN MY OPINION IT SHOULD BE INSTANT ? REMEBER CHRIS FARLEY MOVIE TOMMY BOY ABOUT THE GUARANTEE ON THE BOX MAKES YOU FEEL WARM & FUZZY ? THATS WHAT THIER GUARANTEE STICKER MADE ME THINK OF . HAHAHA . I OWN & RUN A MACHINE SHOP BUSINESS & I TREAT ALL MY CUSTOMERS THE SAME RICH OR POOR & THAT’S THE WAY I WANT TO BE TREATED . I EVEN GIVE THE FARMERS ABOUT 20 PH #’ THEY CAN CALL & TELL THEM THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO BUY IT CHEAPER THAN I CAN REPAIR IT . IT’S ALL ABOUT SAVING MONEY & GETTING A GOOD PART AT A RESONABLE PRICE . DO YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS ON A GOOD POWER CHIP FOR A 1997 F 250 5.4 ENGINE .THANKS FOR YOUR TIME & HELP I APPRECIATE IT . GOD BLESS HAVE A BLESSED DAY & LOVE ONE ANOTHER & QUIT HATING

    1. Glad we helped you avoid a scam! Out of all the products we tested, so far only three produced any result at all – the Volo chip, ST8 chip and the Venom chip. Good luck

  7. You just confirmed my suspicions and saved me from wasting $75.00. The advertised claim of 45% boost in horsepower and torque sounded far too good to be true or honest . Thanks

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